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SG reprimands Soltero in lieu of impeachment

By Anastasia Dawson, CORRESPONDENT

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Published: Wednesday, November 4, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, November 4, 2009

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After a “heated” debate, the Student Government (SG) Senate issued Student Body President Juan Soltero a censure at Tuesday’s meeting, and senators said they won’t waver on their decision.

Senate passed the censure with a 23-17-2 vote because Soltero failed to elect a chair for the Election Rules Commission (ERC), a committee responsible for overseeing all Senate and midterm elections.

SG statutes define a censure as “a resolution passed by the Senate in lieu of impeachment. It is a written reprimand given to an official whose actions may have warranted impeachment, but the Senate felt impeachment or removal from office was not necessary.”

SG officials who receive three or more resolutions of censures during their term will be subject to impeachment proceedings, according to SG statutes.

Senator Dan Shelnutt said he decided to pursue a censure charge instead of an impeachment charge because Soltero did have a nominee for the ERC chair position despite his “very poor planning.”

Shelnutt called the censure charge a “slap on the wrist” and said it is only a written warning to show the Senate’s disapproval.

Soltero said he submitted a memo to notify the Senate of his nomination for the Supervisor of Elections Friday.

However, SG statutes say that when a student body president calls a special session of the Senate to review a nomination, the Senate must be given a 72-hour notice. Soltero only provided 36, SG Senator Abdelfattah Nimer said.

Because the Senate was unable to appoint the ERC chair by the specified time frame, Senators Kelly Budnick and Shelnutt issued the censure to Soltero on the charges of “nonfeasance.”

SG statutes define nonfeasance as “a failure to perform an act that is either an official duty or a legal requirement.”

“I feel like in order for us – the Senate – to do our job we need the student body president to do his job,” Budnick said. “We’ve dealt with issues with the ERC in the past, and I didn’t want to see those things come up again. I didn’t want to see more delay.”

Soltero said he felt that the Senate’s interpretation of the statute was wrong and plans to appeal to the SG Supreme Court.

“It publicly humiliates a public figure, it happens … there will always be opinions about the president, we’re constantly in a fishbowl,” Soltero said. “I think the important thing is to make sure we get the facts and to take it to the court and let the court decide whether the statute is right or wrong.”

Shelnutt said he did not intend to use the censure as a “witch hunt,” and hoped Soltero would view the censure as a “learning experience.”

However, Soltero said the censure was a “waste of time.”

“I think there are a lot of people in Senate who are not very knowledgable about different areas of SG,” he said. “The Senate doesn’t have offices in the suite. They’re not (in the SG offices) on a daily basis. They’re here whenever they have a chance, and for them to be judging whether I did the right thing or not is a little disheartening. But then again, it’s their call.”

Budnick said regardless of the SG Supreme Court’s decision, the censure charges cannot be revoked.

According to SG statutes, “The Student Body President shall nominate, and with the advice and consent of the Senate, appoint a student for Supervisor of Elections by the end of October each year.”

Soltero said he has nominated a chair for the ERC, which will go before Senate for confirmation during a special session that will take place Nov. 13.

Soltero said the delay in the appointing was attributed to a lack of interest in the position. He said only four students submitted applications by the designated due date, thus it was postponed.

SG Vice President Bruno Portigliatti said he felt that many senators were “afraid to speak their minds” because of the heated nature of the Senate debate. He said senators should have allowed more time to make a decision.

“I feel like the decision was a little too precipitated, too premature, and I really don’t think they understand the implications of this,” he said. “Senators sitting in those seats don’t understand the repercussions of something that, to them, may seem small, but in reality is not that small.”

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20 comments

Zain
Tue Nov 10 2009 23:35
SG gets no money from USF. SG's budget comes from Activity and Service fees, which are paid by each student and constitute a separate set of funds than the general revenue fund which comes from tuition and state money.
Tom
Sat Nov 7 2009 11:10
How much money does SG get from USF??
informed
Sat Nov 7 2009 01:28
Everyone is aware of the fact that the Student Body President makes around ten dollars an hour and 'works' nearly forty hours a week. Over seven hundred dollars bi-weekly, paid by the student body. The question is, what has he done for the student body? Didn't he promise progress? Right. Typical politician.
Gary Chesterfield
Fri Nov 6 2009 03:57
Ya'll need to stop all the hate.
Your name
Thu Nov 5 2009 13:54
Generations of Imbeciles in SG Evidence continues to accumulate from far and wide a request is need it to investigate corruption within SG. Beginning with Juan Soltero.
Your name
Thu Nov 5 2009 11:52
Hey Cordell,

GUESS WHAT?!!! Your comment DID get posted on here against your strong conviction that it won't. MAY BE, the Oracle is NOT as biased as you so offhandedly blame it to be. When you take away others' credibility without any reason or logic, others will do the same to you.

Cordell Chavis Attorney General of Student Government
Thu Nov 5 2009 10:21
I have disagreed with Juan multiple times on multiple issues. I find it interesting how peopel forget this so easily when I happen to come down in the opposite direction against the Senate for something I view as wrong. Of course those issues and legal opinions don't get as much publicty because the Oracle would rather report on (as the Student Body is as much to blame for digesting the drama) Censure resolutions and SAFE Team drama, than whether or not SG will spend 30 thousand dollars of student fees on the Florida Student Association or if its legal for the Executive Branch to remove the Senate from its offices and spend 50 thousand dollars in the name of effeciency(these issues actually happened), both of which I was on the Senate's side. This is the most petty I have seen this newspaper and the comments associated with them get. My fraterntiy has nothing to do with my opinions or actions in SG. If my fraternity was so close then Ralph Reid would have not ran against Mr. Soltero for president(both of whom are "frat brothers". Of course this post will not end up posting on here because the peopel who run the oracle are so biased and I would be very surprised to see it go on.
Christian Marble
Wed Nov 4 2009 23:54
Couple comments... First, unless something's changed since August when I was there last, the Senate does have a good chunk of the SG office space and a good number of Senators stop in a few times a week beyond the Senate leadership.

Second, I don't begrudge anyone the right to characterize the place as an "Ivory Tower" but I would like to say that, according to Florida law, it's a completely accessible Ivory Tower for any student who's curious about what's going on. That's something people in and out of SG need to keep in mind - that SG is an entity of state law to a significant degree and so it has to follow the relevant rules about ethics, etc. I honestly think those of us in SG take our positions too seriously in some respects and not seriously enough in others. I will freely admit that this has led to some errors in thinking on my part that I hope to correct when I return in January.

But again, the SG office is fully open, so I encourage concerned students to go up there and talk to people, get your views across, attend meetings, etc.

If everyone hates him, who voted for him?
Wed Nov 4 2009 23:20
Where are all the idiots that voted this guy into office?? I know I didn't vote for him - I could smell this rat from a mile away ! You all got what you wanted - a snake in office. Now you're stuck with him!!
Solteromomma
Wed Nov 4 2009 22:44
I'm Not a Crook Soltero

well, someone like Juan Soltero should get everything he deserve a bumbling amateur who is struggling to remain on top of the game...You would find more intelligent looking people in the rougher section of Tampa Bay. Juan Soltero he really don't look much brighter to be honest.

Your name
Wed Nov 4 2009 22:40
I was just reading USF's long-term strategic plan of breaking into the club of premier research universities of the nation. While there may be a millions of research dollars pouring into USF's coffers, I couldn't help but wonder if the people at USF has a profile anywhere near what is standard at those top schools? Our administration is completely out of sync with its students & staff as far as priorities go, faculty are already beginning to drift away (atleast the good ones!) given the budget cuts, and our students resemble more like high school or community college kids than that of a prospective premier university. When the administration's priority is to run this place like a business and not care about its students, the Student Government's role of student advocacy becomes doubly important from a student perspective. However, our SG continues to disappoint with their petty political in-fightings.
Your name
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:33
Why is SG perpetually mired in this sort of drama? Elections, cabinet changes, reorganizations, officer and staff pay. Year after year, SG spends its time squabbling over relatively trivial internal issues? Where is the representation of student interests? Where is the advocacy? Where is the service to the student body? It really is time for members of SG to reflect upon what they can do for the students of USF, not what their SG positions can do for them.
Disgusted
Wed Nov 4 2009 14:27
Student Government members are SUPPOSED to be spending time among the students across campus RATHER than in those air-conditioned offices. I can only imagine what goes on in the confines of the ivory tower. If it matters at all, Juan - I, as a student of Usf, give you a F grade as my Student Body President. There are countless allegations of corruption against you and all your team tries to do is to discredit others. Just leave!!
TheWiz
Wed Nov 4 2009 13:38
You have to look at political motivates of anyone connecting to Juan Soltero, as it raises serious questions of their abilities within SG. His Sidekicks are as follows: First, let me point out that contrary to what everybody is saying about Juan is true. Lets not forget Bruno his dirty sidekick. Then there is Mr. Chavis, the frat brother and guard dog of Soltero that works to keep the legal heat off his buddy. Of course let us not forget, the Belmont power trip that works as the ring leader of Senate. And finally there is that little guy that is alway working behind the scenes, cleaning the mess and pulling strings with the Senate President. Hmm... can anyone guess who that guy is? It's pretty obvious, no names needed.
Robert Romanski
Wed Nov 4 2009 13:13
This is actually really pathetic.

Despite Mr. Chavis' tragically ignorant interpretations of what statutes mean (no Virginia, they're not in legalese, anyone with a High School Diploma can read and fully understand those statutes), the executive needs to be held to a much higher standard of competency. The deadlines and arrangements decided upon for actions like chairing the ERC are clear as day, and made public knowledge even to general students well in advance. It is not unreasonable for the Senate and other branches of SG to expect that the executive meet deadlines and follow proscribed procedure. It is also not unreasonable that the Senate censure Mr. Soltero for demonstrating either;

1. Apathy for his job, or the position of ERC chair.
2. An inability to function at the levels required for executive action.
3. General incompetence.

When you don't do your job correctly, you have to suffer the penalties. Soltero is often characterized as the pretend President of an imaginary government, and now seems to regard his job with that very attitude- probably not a good idea for a putz living a 'fish bowl'. I understand if President Soltero feels embarassed or betrayed (the senators who pursued the censure had previously supported him during the election), however the resolution of the Senate is their right should absolutely stand- to overturn it would just make the SG courts an even bigger joke. President Soltero should be made to put his childish feelings and ego-centrism aside in respect for the Senate.

As for Mr. Portigliatti... I wish he would speak a lot less. His monologues manage to make pouring through Senate minutes even less bearable.

Honestly, these clowns need to thank whoever they worship for having been elected to their offices, as I can't see this level of incompetency surviving a law school admissions program without some pretty special extra curriculars.

TheMaster
Wed Nov 4 2009 13:04
Corruption amongst SG members would continue to be accepted as far as we remain silent. In a way, all of SG is corrupt in some way or another. They bribe one another with positions and luxuries for their petty interests. In this process, genuine people are also left to face the brunt of corruption. When opportunity presents itself, most people are going to stay silent. The Juan Saltero saga has been going on and on and on, and nobody seems to react to his corruption within the walls of SG. Some people like Juan convince themselves that they can get away with it by surrounding themselves with allies. They don’t think they’re going to get caught, for they designed their administration. When this kind of attitude is ingrained in the SG system, it creates inertia among SG members that simply give up hope things will change. Decent people shy away from the SG politics because they feel it’s too dirty, too crude or too unethical. And the result is fewer decent people involved in the SG political saga.
Your name
Wed Nov 4 2009 13:02
I don't know about you, but every single time someone says any thing about Juan Soltero I questioned it. I believe is time to open the Pandora’s Box. Soltero is incompetent has no ability to perform official duties, unless he is spoon feed or an incentive to feed his hunger for power. Some people think of themselves as superiors to their peers, but the fact that a knowledge background check of Juan is required. Perhaps the intriguing aspect of his presidency should be in question as well.
Amused
Wed Nov 4 2009 11:52
It is a known fact that every senator is itching to impeach Student Body President Soltero for his unethical practices and overriding tendency to micro-manage Student Government. This reprimand is extremely generous on behalf of the Senate, given his track-record. Soltero has used the Attorney General on countless occasions to issue 'legal opinions' to cover his shady acts. Things are not going according to plan, are they Juan? Should have thought about improving your interpersonal skills during Campaign season.
Your name
Wed Nov 4 2009 10:34
Why can't Juan just stand behind the other students in SG? Instead he is spreading rumors about Safe Team, and questioning Senate's knowledge of SG and their statutes. It's obvious that Juan needs a refresher class in the statues, otherwise he wouldn't have received the censure.

Just because Senate does not have an office with a door and a view does not mean that they aren't present or don't know what is going on in the SG suite. Senators put their school work first and go out into the university where the REAL students are (they don't waste their entire day in the SG suite). So yes, Juan, they are only going to be there when they have a chance. Senators are the voice for the students, and we should encourage them to not spend their days in the SG suite like they are "King of the castle." I've seen what goes on in the suite, and the executive office, and when people ARE there...most of it is just socializing. When it comes down to the end of this presidential term, the executive branch is going to be graded upon how much positive change they have brought to the university and it’s students. They are not going to be graded upon how much change they have brought to their Facebook page while they are in the SG suite getting paid.

I think Juan needs to be more supportive of the others in SG, and not just supportive of himself and his many agendas.

My name
Wed Nov 4 2009 08:07
“I think there are a lot of people in Senate who are not very knowledgable about different areas of SG,” he said. “The Senate doesn’t have offices in the suite."

Since when does someone need to have an office in that ivory tower of a suite they have to have an opinion?

Well done, Mr. Shelnutt and Ms. Budnick! Finally, someone takes a stand against Soltero's corruption!







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